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Civil war could not take place in Syrian
Kurdistan: PYD Leader
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Asia Abdullah, co-leader of the biggest Kurdish
party in Syria (the Democratic Union Party PYD).
Photo: Rudaw.
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Asia Abdullah is co-leader of the Syrian
Democratic Union Party (PYD). He was one of the
Congress for Western Kurdistan delegates at a summit
that took place in Erbil with representatives of
Syria’s Kurdish National Council (KNC), mediated by
Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) President
Massoud Barzani. Abdullah talked to Rudaw about the
meeting and its outcomes.
Q: How did your
meetings with Massoud Barzani shape organizing Kurds
in Syria?
Asia Abdullah:
The outcomes of the meeting with President Barzani
were positive. They were about the current state in
the region and the role of Kurdish political parties
and organizations in Syria at this stage. We
discussed the treaty that was signed here in Erbil
last month by the Congress for Western Kurdistan and
the Kurdish National Council. He also proposed the
building of a high council that would carry out
diplomatic work in the name of Syrian Kurdistan.
Barzani confirmed his full support for unity between
all Kurdish parties.
Q: How are your
relations with the Free Syria Army?
Asia Abdullah:
When events started to take shape, as the Congress
for Western Kurdistan, our project was democratic
autonomy. Democratic autonomy is a suitable solution
to the Kurdish problem in Syria. We struggled on a
mass scale to organize society first; we benefited
from the situation and are mainly concerned about
social problems.
The second stage of democratic autonomy is
protection. If the consciousness of a nation does
not progress on the basis of safety, if it does not
understand how to protect itself, then it could face
dangerous consequences. We have not made any
decisions to stand against the Free Syria Army, but
Kurds need to defend their areas themselves. The
Kurdish youth can protect their areas from violence.
The mechanism of that protection is civil defence,
not militaristic. There is an organization that
protects Kurdish areas from any attack or dispute.
They have managed to prevent dangerous acts,
especially in areas that are at risk of serious
threats, such as in the Efrin area.
Q: Why is Efrin
at risk of serious threats? Is it because you mainly
control the area and it is near to Turkey?
Asia Abdullah:
The people of Efrin are leading the revolution in
Syrian Kurdistan and it is therefore targeted by
several forces. The other reason is that Efrin is a
border region, so in some areas the border of Efrin
and that of the Free Syria Army are actually mixed
together and have become one. It is near to Idlib as
well, that is why there are threats. At the same
time, there are Turkish threats on Efrin too. In
Syrian cities where Kurds are currently living, we
believe there should be safety and protection.
Protection is what we think must be taken seriously.
Q: When do you
predict the regime to fall?
Asia Abdullah:
We are certain that the regime will dismantle soon
because there is no place left for that type of
regime in today’s world. However, this does not mean
that the regime falling depends on the fight
currently taking place inside Syria; it depends on
the fight taking place outside Syria over the future
of Syria. On an international scale,www.ekurd.net
there are debates about the future of Syria and what
model of political power should be installed after
the regime falls. There are international forces
supporting the regime, others planning different
projects, but they have yet to come to an agreement.
When events began in Syria, many thought that the
regime would fall in couple of months, but
considering the position of Syria and its
international alliances, we predicted that it was
impossible for the regime to fall in couple of
months. And we then began to direct our politics on
that basis.
Today, the violence increasingly intensifies on a
daily basis and that is a great danger for all the
people of Syria, which in turn may bring closer the
ultimate fall of the regime. But, if the regime
continues to massacre Syrians en masse with heavy
weaponry, that brings closer the possibility of
American military intervention.
Q: Would you say
that without foreign intervention the Syrian regime
will never fall?
Asia Abdullah:
The preparation for regime change is not inside
Syria, and the opposition is divided. They do not
have enough force and that will lead eventually the
regime to stand even longer.
Q: The Kurds are
divided too; how should they get organized?
Asia Abdullah:
We think democratic autonomy is the solution to the
Kurdish dilemma and we are working towards putting
that into practice, which is our agenda. From here,
I would like to call on all the Kurdish parties to
publically disclose their agenda too, because it is
necessary for the Kurdish solution to be based on
one principle. We need to know what kind of
political model the people of Syrian Kurdistan
demand.
They should put an end to the intermittent meetings
with the outside world that have no outcomes. There
needs to be an institution that is built by
organizations that can take diplomatic decisions on
behalf of Kurds and what they need. There must be no
diplomatic relations outside the interests of the
Kurdish nation in Syrian Kurdistan.
Q: Do you think
there are Kurdish organizations with relations with
foreign forces against the interests of Kurds?
Asia Abdullah:
If any Kurdish forces have independent relations,
then they could make mistakes deliberately or
unconsciously. In order to prevent mistakes that may
threaten the Kurdish nation, we need to build a
unified institution.
Q: Would you say
that divisions among the Kurds could lead to a civil
war?
Asia Abdullah:
Today, the consciousness of Kurds is at its peak.
Everybody knows they have a responsibility and there
exist mutual understandings. If any political forces
try to ignite a civil war, the Kurdish nation will
not forgive them. The Kurds in Syria categorize
civil war as taboo. A civil war could not take place
in Syrian Kurdistan as it is not in the interest of
anyone.
By Hemin Khoshnaw - Rudaw
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