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Civil war could not take place in Syrian Kurdistan: PYD Leader  17.7.2012  








Asia Abdullah, co-leader of the biggest Kurdish party in Syria (the Democratic Union Party  PYD). Photo: Rudaw. See Related Links
The people of Efrin are leading the revolution in Syrian Kurdistan

July 17, 2012


Asia Abdullah is co-leader of the Syrian Democratic Union Party (PYD). He was one of the Congress for Western Kurdistan delegates at a summit that took place in Erbil with representatives of Syria’s Kurdish National Council (KNC), mediated by Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) President Massoud Barzani. Abdullah talked to Rudaw about the meeting and its outcomes.

Q: How did your meetings with Massoud Barzani shape organizing Kurds in Syria?

Asia Abdullah: The outcomes of the meeting with President Barzani were positive. They were about the current state in the region and the role of Kurdish political parties and organizations in Syria at this stage. We discussed the treaty that was signed here in Erbil last month by the Congress for Western Kurdistan and the Kurdish National Council. He also proposed the building of a high council that would carry out diplomatic work in the name of Syrian Kurdistan. Barzani confirmed his full support for unity between all Kurdish parties.

Q: How are your relations with the Free Syria Army?

Asia Abdullah: When events started to take shape, as the Congress for Western Kurdistan, our project was democratic autonomy. Democratic autonomy is a suitable solution to the Kurdish problem in Syria. We struggled on a mass scale to organize society first; we benefited from the situation and are mainly concerned about social problems.

The second stage of democratic autonomy is protection. If the consciousness of a nation does not progress on the basis of safety, if it does not understand how to protect itself, then it could face dangerous consequences. We have not made any decisions to stand against the Free Syria Army, but Kurds need to defend their areas themselves. The Kurdish youth can protect their areas from violence. The mechanism of that protection is civil defence, not militaristic. There is an organization that protects Kurdish areas from any attack or dispute. They have managed to prevent dangerous acts, especially in areas that are at risk of serious threats, such as in the Efrin area.

Q: Why is Efrin at risk of serious threats? Is it because you mainly control the area and it is near to Turkey?

Asia Abdullah: The people of Efrin are leading the revolution in Syrian Kurdistan and it is therefore targeted by several forces. The other reason is that Efrin is a border region, so in some areas the border of Efrin and that of the Free Syria Army are actually mixed together and have become one. It is near to Idlib as well, that is why there are threats. At the same time, there are Turkish threats on Efrin too. In Syrian cities where Kurds are currently living, we believe there should be safety and protection. Protection is what we think must be taken seriously.

Q: When do you predict the regime to fall?

Asia Abdullah: We are certain that the regime will dismantle soon because there is no place left for that type of regime in today’s world. However, this does not mean that the regime falling depends on the fight currently taking place inside Syria; it depends on the fight taking place outside Syria over the future of Syria. On an international scale,www.ekurd.net there are debates about the future of Syria and what model of political power should be installed after the regime falls. There are international forces supporting the regime, others planning different projects, but they have yet to come to an agreement.

When events began in Syria, many thought that the regime would fall in couple of months, but considering the position of Syria and its international alliances, we predicted that it was impossible for the regime to fall in couple of months. And we then began to direct our politics on that basis.

Today, the violence increasingly intensifies on a daily basis and that is a great danger for all the people of Syria, which in turn may bring closer the ultimate fall of the regime. But, if the regime continues to massacre Syrians en masse with heavy weaponry, that brings closer the possibility of American military intervention.

Q: Would you say that without foreign intervention the Syrian regime will never fall?

Asia Abdullah: The preparation for regime change is not inside Syria, and the opposition is divided. They do not have enough force and that will lead eventually the regime to stand even longer.

Q: The Kurds are divided too; how should they get organized?

Asia Abdullah: We think democratic autonomy is the solution to the Kurdish dilemma and we are working towards putting that into practice, which is our agenda. From here, I would like to call on all the Kurdish parties to publically disclose their agenda too, because it is necessary for the Kurdish solution to be based on one principle. We need to know what kind of political model the people of Syrian Kurdistan demand.

They should put an end to the intermittent meetings with the outside world that have no outcomes. There needs to be an institution that is built by organizations that can take diplomatic decisions on behalf of Kurds and what they need. There must be no diplomatic relations outside the interests of the Kurdish nation in Syrian Kurdistan.

Q: Do you think there are Kurdish organizations with relations with foreign forces against the interests of Kurds?

Asia Abdullah: If any Kurdish forces have independent relations, then they could make mistakes deliberately or unconsciously. In order to prevent mistakes that may threaten the Kurdish nation, we need to build a unified institution.

Q: Would you say that divisions among the Kurds could lead to a civil war?

Asia Abdullah: Today, the consciousness of Kurds is at its peak. Everybody knows they have a responsibility and there exist mutual understandings. If any political forces try to ignite a civil war, the Kurdish nation will not forgive them. The Kurds in Syria categorize civil war as taboo. A civil war could not take place in Syrian Kurdistan as it is not in the interest of anyone.

By Hemin Khoshnaw - Rudaw

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