Kurdish state will be established and
Kurds know how to benefit from their experiences:
Lebanese writer and journalist Khairallah Khairallah
July 6, 2012
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AMSTERDAM, — Lebanese writer and journalist
Khairallah Khairallah said that the Kurdish state
will be established and that the Kurdish people know
how to benefit from their experiences, adding that
this shows political maturity and a desire to adopt
realism instead of slogans.
Khairallah said in the interview with Aknews that
the dispute between Baghdad and Erbil is under
control where the ruling party in Baghdad knows that
it cannot go far in its demands because it is aware
that it cannot be a part of open confrontation with
the Kurdistan Region. On the other hand, the region
will benefit from this case to reach extensive
decentralization, closer to undeclared independence.
What do you think about the
relationship between the government of Baghdad and
that of the Kurdistan Region? Are there any fears of
a war caused by the differences about the disputed
territories and the sharing of oil wealth?
The relationship between the two governments is the
relation of interest and the federal government
recognizes the limits of its influence and the
Kurdistan Regional Government recognizes that it
must build the future of Kurdistan without raising a
lot of sensitivities. From this standpoint, it seems
that the differences between the two sides are under
control. The time factor is in the favor of the
Kurds so why would they create problems and
participate in political confrontations that have no
future? What is the point of that?
What is your assessment of
the democratic experiment in Iraq?
The democratic experiment in Iraq is at its
beginnings. It's like a crawling baby. Will the day
come for this experience to be able to stand up?
There is hope but it is very little for a very
simple reason, that is the experience of democracy
cannot succeed in the presence of religious parties
that have militias of their own. Unfortunately the
Iraqi society is in a state of decline at all
levels. The Baathist family system established by
the Saddam Hussein's regime affected deeply the
Iraqi society. The social problem is currently the
biggest problem that has plagued Iraq if we exclude
the Kurdish regions, which knew how to keep
themselves away from religious and sectarian strife
that Iraq suffered from.
Iraqi-Arab relations are
still tense. How can they be improved?
Nothing is clear in the whole region so how would it
be in a very complex issue like Iraqi-Arab
relations? Arab-Iraqi relations are normal. This is
due to several factors, notably Sunni-Shia
interactions in Iraq and abroad and Iranian
influence in this country. We can say that Iran is
the primary beneficiary of the US invasion of Iraq,
it is the only victor in this war. Was the victory
of Iran against the Iraqi people? Can it be
considered a victory?
Iraq currently lacks balance and identity under the
influence of Iran, and the Arabs are lost and can
only see the Iranian danger that threatens them.
Arabs have the right to exaggerate about the Iranian
threat, given that Iran is using the sectarian
weapon in its attempt to destabilize the security of
certain Arab countries, especially in the Gulf
region. At the end of the fall of Bahrain under the
Iranian influence threatened Saudi security directly
and this is what cannot be accepted by the kingdom
or nearby countries. It's an issue of life or death
for Saudi Arabia and Gulf Arab states.
In addition, there is still a need for a long period
of time for Arabs to understand exactly what is
going on in Iraq and for Iraqis to recognize the
ways that must be adopted to improve the
relationship with other Arabs rather than the
Baghdad government implementing the instructions of
the Iranian authorities.
There is an Iranian
influence on the course of events in Syria, Lebanon,
Iraq, and at the same time some are seeking to
ignore this influence rather than interacting with
it. What is the right way, in your opinion, to deal
with it in the best interests of Arabs?
There is no doubt that the Iranian influence is
based in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Without Iraq there
would have been no government led by Prime Minister
Nouri al-Maliki in Iraq and the Baathist regime
would have fallen in Syria a long time ago. As for
Beirut, it is under Iranian occupation. This is
applied to several Lebanese areas that turned into
security islands controlled by Hezbollah, which the
Lebanese consider to be part of Iran's Revolutionary
The Arabs, unfortunately, have only one option which
is confrontation with Iran. This confrontation
begins with steadfastness and revealing the truth of
the Iranian project. If Iran had accepted
negotiation and openness with Arabs it wouldn't have
kept the occupation of three UAE islands since 1971.
Is there a nice occupation of the Arab land because
it is an Iranian occupation and a hateful one that
is the Israeli occupation?
How do you see the future
of events in Syria?
The regime in Syria is over. Is it normal that one
family that belongs to a small community governs for
over four decades, under the "resistance" and
"objection" slogans? The question is how will the
end of the regime come about? There are fears that
the longer the crisis continues,www.ekurd.net
the more division may occur in the country. The
problem of Syria since its independence is the
problem of entity and it turned into a problem of
regime and entity at the same time. The development
of events are heading towards the deterioration of
the Syrian entity.
You wrote "when it comes to
oil and oil reserves and the future of an important
region of the world such as the Gulf region, Iran
must take its natural size". Is this happening or is
Iran expanding its influence?
It is apparent that the Iranian regime learned
nothing from the experiences of others, including
the experience of Saddam Hussein in 1990 who
occupied Kuwait without being aware of the results
of occupying an oil country.
The Gulf region is an important area for the whole
world and Iran cannot control the wealth of the
region and that of Iraq. Iran is not a superpower,
it doesn't have the superpower elements. It lives on
the revenues of oil and doesn't have alternatives to
oil. When the Iranian regime plays its required role
in the field of intimidating the Gulf states and
forcing it to buy large quantities of weapons, the
major countries, mainly the United States, will take
the necessary measures to return Iran to its normal
Do you see the features of
a Kurdish state in the future? And when can it be
The Kurdish state will be established. Only the
Kurds do not want to recognize it in these days. The
Kurds are people who know how to benefit from their
experiences. The Kurdish citizens do not need
slogans, they need work, education and bread first.
Some believe that the
region is on the verge of a Sunni-Shiite conflict,
an alternative to the Arab-Israeli conflict. The two
main players are Sunni Turkey and Shiite Iran. What
do you think about this?
Anything can happen in the region. There is a
Sunni-Shiite conflict dominating now and all that
has to do with the Palestinian issue. Arabs lie when
they say that Palestine is still their first case.
Palestine is still the issue of the Palestinians
alone and this reality cannot be ignored. But the
question remains. What is the future of Iran? When
will the presence of its regime end?
As for Turkey, I do not think it will participate in
a Shiite-Sunni conflict with Iran. The Turks are
much more aware and know the weaknesses and
strengths of the Iranian regime and prefer to avoid
direct confrontation with it, at least in the
By Adnan Abu Zaid - Aknews
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